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tax cuts on consumer spending. as we know with all of this talk of the fiscal cluf tax cuts are set to spike at the beginning of next year. according to the new report allowing middle class tax rates to group, along with allowing the current tax cut to expire would change the gdp. this is all part of the president's effort to extent the burr-era tax cuts for americans making less than $250,000 a year, all while incriesing taxes on the wealthy. it seems some members of the dgdp could be coming around and be ready to go against the grover norquist pledge. more bill press after the break. stay with us. you're about to watch an viewer created ad message for little caesars who proudly salutes united states veterans everywhere. >> clarksville is a small town on the tennesse/kentucky boader and it is a really great place to raise a family. my name is lloyd allard i was a chief officer in the special forces, i was in the army for 23 years. i have made 1400 parachute jumps. well, my experience in the military was varied. i spent a lot of time in iraq, a lot of time in kuwait. i did
willing to put entitlements and spending on the table. republicans saying they're willing to do tax revenue and that could be or would be the key to any agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff and get the country's books back in order. gerri: you will be covering this for a long time. thanks for that. this black friday wal-mart shoppers think protests, it is not a superstore workers on the picket line. jeff flock joins us with more. jeff: a few of them but the majority were not wal-mart workers but members of other unions like the teamsters, the uaw, it was built today as a demonstration against the notion of working on thursday on thanksgiving. the day before black friday. but the protest when it came wn to it wasn't so much about that. was against walmart's practice of paying minimum-wage, not giving workers enough money in their view and about work rules. that is what the actual protests came down to. it was organized by organization called our walmart, the shadow union for the non-union walmart and well-organized by united food and commercial workers union which is trying to organiz
an alternative minimum tax he had been talking about for the really wealthy. >> 30% or something. >> anybody from 1 to $10 million. also talked a little bit about raising the -- >> same thing he's been saying all along. >> he added that when it comes to who should be paying the higher taxes, he wants the threshold to be $500,000. >> and you see steven rattner on on talking about capital gains, deductions and things you've talked about a lot. >> time for the global markets report. ross westgate totally still confuse aed about thanksgiving and pilgrims. what was all the hoopla about? you celebrate boxing or something, don't you? like we lost a great boxer. is that what you celebrate? what is boxing day? >> boxing day, the day of a christmas. >> you wrap all your presents in boxes? >> i think it's something to do with all the presents. i'm not quite sure. >> yeah, put them in boxes. >> maybe. >> so you ignored our thanksgiving. but feeling okay again? >> yeah. you know, it's okay. it's all right. it's gone. now we can concentrate on the run up to christmas. and how much shopping we have to do. >> a
norquist's anti-tax pledge. saying they're open to letting revenues rise if democrats do their part in the budget talks. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece, and republicans should put revenue on the table. i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> a pledge you signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for that congress. for instance, if i were in congress in 1941, i would have signed the declaration of war against japan. we're not going to attack japan today. the world has changed, and the economic situation is different. >> so peter king is telling us, mike barnicle, not only is he going soft on taxes, he's going soft on japan. >> i know. >> it's not just peter king on the taxes. it's a big step, don't you think? >> it's a big step. >> grover. yeah, grover's taking a big hit since the election. there's no doubt about it. i think john, you'd verify this. number of republicans, i've talked to a couple of united states senators who
owners today. tomorrow he meets with middle class americans who would be affected by tax hikes and more business leaders. friday he's going to travel to hatfield pennsylvania where he will give campaign style remarks to get support for congress to negotiate the right kind of deal. we are back with more steph after this. ♪ [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ >> yahoo, it is the "stephanie miller show," welcome to it. 1-800-steph-1-2 toll free from everywhere. steven weber. he will be there nobody panic he will be right there. charlie pierce said some good stuff about the fiscal cliff and other things. this is going to be a fascinating discussion. the president playing three dimensional chess. told you so. >> never mind. >> never mind. >> corn? when did we book corn? [ laughter ] >> oh, you kids. i swear. all right, you know what? i think there's a little estrogen in the clubhouse. ♪ ♪ >> hi, jackie schechner. >> good morning. my athlete, my warrior my legend. >> stop that night now. >> you didn't get up this early to compromis
to maintain bush-era tax rates for the poor and middle class, while letting those lower rates expire for higher earners. this morning, the white house put out numbers claiming if we fall off the cliff, consumers will be spending less money next year. how much less, exactly? $200 billion in fiscal 2013 alone. that would be a huge, huge hit on retailers. now, tax hikes are the biggest part, but not the only part of the fiscal cliff. seeing it as a fiscal cliff, the new year will also bring more than $100 billion in spending cuts, if -- if congress and the president can't agree on some other course. all of this brings me to my friend, cnn's christine romans with details on the toll on consumer spending. we threw out the number, $200 billion. what does that mean? >> it comes straight from the white house, trying to ride the coat tails of black friday weekend when throwing around how much money consumers spent over the past four days. the white house is saying, if these tax cuts go away for the middle class and taxes rise and the amt patch goes away and taxes rise on the middle class, it
to sign a pledge from somebody else. >> what they're talking about again is tax revenue and the house speaker has talked about it. mitt romney campaigned on it. >> lowering deductions and closing loopholes. >> eliminate or limit rather deductions and credits and exemptions. cutting out the exemptions and loopholes. >> grow this economy and engage in tax reform. >> simplify the code. >> ywhen you get divorced, thats what happens. ♪ >> welcome back after the thanksgiving holiday and all eyes are on the fast approaching fiscal cliff with republicans possibly maybe looking to make a deal. with the deadline now just 36 days away, some top republicans suggest they could, shock, horror, break with their sacred pledge to grover norquist. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge i made tennesseans aware is just elected that the only thing i'm honoring is the oath that i take when i serve when i'm sworn in this january. >> there's a lot that has been said about this pledge, and i will tell you when i go to the constituents that have elected -- re-elected me, it is not about that pledge. it really i
at this point. >> but when you look at those, they all have some come by neigh of spending cuts and tax increases. the idea is that over a period of time, you basically put the country in a better path, the government in a better path to spending and taxation. what you don't want is the fiscal cliff because that was designed to be something that nobody liked. and the reason is, yes, you've reduced the deficit from about 7% of gdp down to about 4% of gdp, so you move in the right direction really dramatically, but you do it in a way that nobody was happy with exactly where those cuts come from and exactly how the taxes increase. >> with what you're seeing, and we never know, it's almost like a mating dance where you've got the male and a feel of some species -- >> it's an ugly one. >> looks like they're never going to do it. they get closer and closer. >> but there is a lot of -- they back off and they might even look like they're fighting. but do they eventually, you know, do it? >> well, i think certainly everybody hopes so. because it would be better than if they don't. >> that didn't
, that what moved up nicely is going to be the piggy bank that gets cracked first before the tax man comes based on the unknowns of the fiscal cliff. >> would you buy gold here, michael? >> no, no. i'm going wait for it to wash out a little more. then i'm going add to my positions. i have a -- >> you don't weigh gold outright. >> you have to own some gold. qe-4 is coming. no doubt about it. they're already doing $40 billion per month. it's going to be $85 billion of unsterilized counterfeiting per month starting january 1. how do you abandon gold in that premise? >> that's exactly right. we're playing it a little bit differently. we like some of the gold-related companies. >> the miners have gotten beaten up. they got beat up much worse than the actual metals. >> there's cost and exploration you have to factor in. >> are those your best ideas? >> no, actually. i think you can still -- i'm half if cash. i think you can look for areas to enter in o short position on lockheed martin. >> defense stocks because of the fiscal cliff. >> yes, but once that gets solved, i think you have a huge rall
of positive talk following the election. even bill kristol talking about let's feel free to raise taxes if it's part of a bigger deal. a lot of elections don't have consequences, midterm elections. this was supposed to be a status quo election. but something happened here. i think the fever is starting to break. >> absolutely. you're going to see it, i think, on immigration reform, and i think you're going to see it on spending and taxation. and you don't have to effect or change basic tax rates. as you know, there's all sorts of things you can do on so-called tax expenditure dealing with home mortgage deductions, dealing with state and local taxes. also there's things obviously on the spending side, entitlements and domestic spending, this isn't that hard. this is, if you will, a mini-package. this isn't necessarily on the scale of simpson-bowles. it doesn't need to be. this ought to be doable. >> john heilemann, obviously both sides have to give. everyone's been saying that. there needs to be room for compromise, figure out how to get there. how does a deal look? is there a possibility of a
, more republicans seeming to break their no tax pledge but still bickering with democrats over the so-called fiscal cliff. and just under 35 days now america falls off that cliff. you've heard the menacing sound right there. this triggers drastic spending cuts and tax hikes. now there are some signs of compromise on capitol hill. several top republicans saying they're willing to at least consider raising tax revenues to get a spending plan passed within the next five weeks. however when the lame duck senate returned to work yesterday, it sure sounded like the same old stalemate. >> the senate has spoken and president obama has spoken. he's promised he will not sign any bill that mortgages our future to pay for handouts to the wealthiest 2% of americans. i only hope house republicans have been listening. >> we've been responsible, even as we've remained firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that won't materialize later. >> hardly a political plug there. cnn political director mark preston is live from washington this morning. mark, so far there are no form
a break the no tax pledge. that is a hopeful sign, folks, because a new cnn/orc poll shows more than two thirds of americans believe a trip over that cliff would create major problems, perhaps even a crisis. cnn political editor paul steinhauser is live from washington, d.c. this morning. nice to see you, paul. so the fiscal cliff triggers back-breaking tax hikes and massive spending cuts. you've got more numbers that show what type of budget plan americans actually prefer. >> exactly. one of the big arguments, zoraida, is should it be all spending cuts to get us there or tax increases, as well? brand-new numbers just out from cnn/orc. only about one in three say whatever deal should be struck should be just spending cuts. but almost seven in ten, two thirds of americans say the plan should include spending cuts and tax increases. our poll indicates americans are not so optimistic a deal will get done and if it doesn't get done, who gets the blame? look at this right here, about 45% say republicans in congress will be blamed if there is no deal and the country falls off the fiscal cliff.
that pushed that no new taxes pledge signed bay majority of republicans in congress. here's what chambliss says. i care more about my country than i do a 20-year-old pledge. he's willing to let the political consequences take care of themselves. raising taxes has been at the center of the fiscal cliff dispute. democrats demanding it. republicans saying no way. so amy, is this a sizable crack in the republican armor? >> we are seeing that the two sides are going to need to negotiate if we don't go over the fiscal cliff. i would point out that patty murray, a democratic senator from washington state says we should go over it, certainly in contrast to the rest of her party. so i think that we're seeing negotiations on both sides. but i want to point out what the fiscal cliff really means. it means the tax rates go up for everyone across the board. if you earn a paycheck, your taxes are going up. that's not just your federal income tax. that's your social security tax as well. we've been on a social security tax holiday, people are unaware of this, only as employees paying in 2.4%. after decem
will be meeting with small business leaders. at issue of course is the series of tax increases and spending cuts that kick in at the end of the year if congress doesn't act. >> there will come a point in time where we can't borrow anymore money and interest rates will sky rocket. >> cnbc's raise above campaign continues. we're asking who has the courage to rise above partisan politics and find a solution. among our guests, three men who understand washington, wall street and corporate america very well. we have the chairman of president george w. bush's council of economic adviser, ed lazear, roger altman, and real estate tycoon don peebles. but let's cover this morning's top headlines. >>> we do have a lot in the corporate headlines this morning including equity residential and avalon bay communities agreeing to buy archstone from lehman brothers holdings. the price tag, about $6.5 billion in cash and stock. the deal gives lehman cash to help pay its creditors as it liquidates. but it paid $22 billion for this company originally. so $6.5 billion versus $22 billion, and you can see how lehman go
on the fiscal cliff, chances are we get a slower economy next year because of the higher taxes and cutting spending? >> i want to touch on something that liz just said. i have tried to get her to play along with this game. >> i gave up long ago. >> she always resists me when i try to pin her down on the number. i guess she's smart. as you mentioned, a fellow from morgan stanley coming out saying, look, i blew it. it's a pain for me. i don't want to do this. i think what they're banking on is this whole fiscal cliff thing, the europe thing. all of the head winds for the market are never going to see the worst case scenario. i think just kind of the picture is this muddle through going forward. i called up today and tried to -- i talked to some of the most bearish people i know. they're all just kind of saying, yeah, we're going to muddle through. the fiscal cliff is going it get resolved one way or the other. europe is going to get resolve one way or the other. i think this is one of -- >> steve, he brings up a good point. consumers are not worried about the fiscal cliff. intraday trading t
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the no taxes pledge created by the president of americans for tax reform, grover norqui norquist, the two most terrifying words a republican can hear, other than buenos diaz. but now some republicans are abandoning the anti-tax pledge as fast as they abandoned -- what's his name? don't help me. don't help me. rip flambe -- no, that's my personal trainer. >> all right. good morning. it's wednesday, november 28th. look at this live look at rockefeller plaza. it is just lit up. gorgeous. >> you know what happens tonight? >> oh, yes, the big tree lighting. >> big commerce -- >> exciting for all the children. >> all right. welcome to "morning joe." >> mike, do you think that's going to whip people into a buying frenzy -- >> it's comcastic. >> a five-year running joke. >> i guess he wasn't paying attention. >> yes. >> national affairs editor for "new york" magazine. john heilemann and andrea mitchell. >> a lot of people say, i'm in trouble. and they've got these little arm bands now, wwjd. what would joe do? so what do i say? you've seen those, wwjd. >> everywhere. >> i say make a mistake, just step
of millions of new jobs. millions of billions of dollars in tax revenue and make us more secure and less reliance on outsiders. it was about promoting energy. host: do you support mitt romney's bid? guest: we do not support anyone in particular at all. -- he has spoken about raising taxes sent into action. reading the best approach is to allow the developing energy resources, and from that developed vast amounts of revenue to the government. people did not realize that the industry contributed $86 million a day to the federal government. the best approach here is, let us develop the united states resources, put our people to work, create more taxpayers and in the course of that coming generate billions in need, to create trillions by 2025. that is the right policy approach. not single out an industry for punitive treatment. we pay not only our fair share, we pay more than our fair share. host: the process of extracting that natural-gas, fracking. what regulations are coming from this administration? guest: what has made it possible for us to talk about energy security -- by 2020, if we p
are entitled to tax breaks. arms manufacturers entitled to bigger contracts. the poor and the middle class, they're entitled to underemployment, foreclosures, cuts in both social security and medicare. poor and middle-class americans know all about the fiscal cliff. they've been getting pushed off it for years. with an unfair tax system, unconscionable trade deals and the fed's monetary policies. nearly 50 million people are in poverty in america. 12 million unemployed. millions more underemployed. on january 2, millions stand to lose unemployment benefits. 14 million americans' mortgages are greater than the value of their homes. on the rise massive cuts to essential services. will the american austerity replace the american dream? we need to turn back from the fiscal cliff with wealth creation, education, job creation, infrastructure rebuilding, monetary reform, trade reform, protection of social security and medicare. we need a great economic revival, not another great depression. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognize next? mr. poe: i ask
almanac had today. >> we want to know what taxes are going to be. there is a big -- one of the things i look at the charts every weekend. i'm pathetic. i have them delivered to my door. everything stops in the house. utility stocks are horrendous. i think that's people saying, look, dividend is going to -- >> 39.6 on your dividends will be a different story. >> have you seen those charts? they are the worst. >> i get them delivered as well of course. >> who doesn't? >> saturday morning i like to get up and look at my charts. >> i think we have something in common. i feel better. >> three tech companies known for their beaten down stocks are getting good news from the street today. facebook upgraded to outperform over at bernstein. cibc raising rimm and yahoo! added to the conviction buy list at goldman sachs. cnbc and yahoo! have a business alliance to share and co-produce editorial content. my favorite is rimm. >> i love that. >> the blackberry 10 is locked in for january 30th. they say the carrier feedback will become more clear and a lack of new competing devices -- not sure on what
billion in tax increases and spending cuts. >>> because he watches "morning joe" every weekday morning -- >> i don't think that's true. maybe. >> -- monday through friday, senator john mccain is taking our advice and softening his attacks on susan rice. after vowing to block her potential nomination as secretary of state. now, republicans are claiming the ambassador deliberately misled the country in the aftermath of the september 11th attacks on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. but rice says she's not to blame, arguing that she relied on talking points from the intelligence community. now, although senator mccain had threatened a senate filibuster earlier this month, he says he's now open to meeting directly with ms. rice. >> is there anything that ambassador rice can do to change your mind about it? >> sure. she can give everyone the benefit of explaining their position and the actions that they took, and i'll be glad to have the opportunity to discuss these issues with her. >> she could conceivably get your vote for secretary of state? >> i think she deserves the ability and the oppo
the 18.4 cent per gallon federal gasoline tax, something that's being pushed by state highway officials and road builders across america. casinos are also pushing to get language legalizing online poker into a deal and governors hit hard by superstorm sandy or wanting more if federal aid to come to them through a potential deal. whatever agreement it made to avoid the fiscal cliff, it's going to be worth a lot of money and now is the time that groups are stepping up to see if they can get in on some of that. >> all right, everyone wants a little piece of the action and everyone wants fiscal restraint and they all wan their own-- >> hey, if you cut the other programs, the ones that don't involve me, that's better. >> what's the deal that gets done? do the middle class obviously gets extended, bush tax cuts. 250 and under. what gets done above that? >> well, remember joe biden telegraphed the idea na he likes the 1 million mark and president obama had 200-- >> 250,000 as everyone and we were talking to small business owners on the show saying that $250,000 that's the small business owners
products and the loss of their jobs, loss of our manufacturing base, the logs of our tax base, and by the way, few pennies of every dollar we spend there at the great wall of mart is going to build a very powerful military in china that is going to challenge our pacific fleet soon, so if we connect the dots or change our behavior. >> come on, peter. >> we really need to make red, white and blue friday instead of black friday. >> you can grow america without demonizing china. china has its own national interests and strategy. what's ours? john, without -- what does america do? >> you know what, we have to do is stop whining and complaining and blaming china for the fact that we don't make things that americans want. if we make better products which have a higher quality, america is going to buy it. the other thing that is going on that peter doesn't talk about the prices, the wages for workers in china, the cost of doing business in china is requesting up significantly. we can now make things in america as cheaply as it can be made in china. let's look at a. perfect example is
classmate grover norquist, the anti-tax crusader who came out swinging this weekend reminding republicans who signed the no new tax pledge to not discuss impure thoughts if they talk about taxes on national television. i know important apornography w it. it made it very clear that any republican who signed the pledge, that's pretty much every republican in congress, who balks at someone whose career is over. to me, that meant the defectors are far and few between. as a moderate leadership cannot deliver those pledge to the norquist hardline. norquist who seems to welcome a bust on the wall of shame, used to beg for it, is more powerful than speaker john boehner. norquist is more powerful than boehner. it feels as if the air went out of the compromise zeppelin. hey, like the graph zeppelin, like, lakers. retail, now we're hearing that there wasn't as much follow-through to the initial sales from thursday night. i think it's nonsense, but mo macy's and costco were tagged with huge loss es today. i believe the holiday sales are far are flat-out strong. amazing numbers from apple, like a rock
for us to be concerned about the potential for estate tax problems moving forward. >> greta: thank you for being with us tonight. go to gretawire.com and let us know what you thought about this special edition of "on the record". good night from washington. on of the o'reilly factor is on. tonight. it's a very special edition of the great american news quiz. i'm from iowa i would know that. >> fascinating. >> showoff. >> steve doocy. martha maccallum and you compete for bragging rights. kwame or nothing. >> maccallum won. be a good sport. >> test your knowledge on the great american news quiz. factor style. you picked. >> teddy bear. >> hi. can we replace doocy? is it too too late? >> you are about to enter the no spin zone. of the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching this special edition of the factor. the great american news quiz spectacular. for the next hour you will get to test your knowledge and play along with us. so let's begin. first topic, will he general gather actor john wayne. >> all right. here is question number one. movie fans
. 42% thought the obama administration would be able to do that in 2008. avoid raising taxes. control illegal immigration. heal political divisions in this country. 54% thought so in 2008. bob in north carolina on are democrats' line. you are up next. caller: i just think it is going to be better coming up this next time because i believe obama it did need a second chance. i voted for him. i am a native american and i lived on a cherokee indian reservation. we have to balance our budget. our leaders serve four years just like the president does. we make our budget work. if we don't have the money, we don't do it. that is all i got to tell you. host: jacqueline pata is going to be on later in this program. how would you describe the conditions where you live? caller: we have a heritage casino down here and it does a lot for us. we send all of our kids to college. we pay for it all. they can go to college anywhere in the united states. host: indian gaming has helped urination? caller: very much. host: are independent line, you are up next. what is your optimism level? caller: i am not o
because they are tax exempt. to bill's point. the colleges and universities are out of control because they are nonprofit. they have 40 administrators for every one student. and i don't know why stunes are giting squeezed when football is so profitable. nand they stand up for the university of the sphoil would children, go ahead, rich. >> and pete carol was running out and scandal trailing him the whole way. sc is a great school and more frominent over time and i don't know how you correlate it to pete carol. >> so far, no one is going for bill baldwin's solution. nand my reform plan would eliminate the ncaa. enthe football. thanks to the web education is upend football will be like the minor leagues for like baseball training and university, you are going to do it on computer and so enjoy it while you can. >> with that thought. we'll look on that for a while. unions strike a busy shopping center of the year and are they going to be scrooge that wreaks holiday sales. u.s. businesses are coughing up thieves for polluting. will this climate change. we report and you decide. can i help yo
, which john is an expert on, the financial change, transaction taxes, for example, in meetings saying i like this idea. there's ways to do taxes, tamp down wild frothy speculated trade, and rebalance the system out of whack, but he's pushed back by summers or geithner or others and sometimes he's with summers, stimes with geithner, but he moves towards pragmatism. some say towards caution rather than activism that some folks hoped for, certainly on the left. having said that, the man's evolving. we can't help ourselves. we all evolve. i think the big question is how this man, will evolve has evolved, and how that expresses itself now that he has a refreshman date. >> that's the big question. what's the big answer? >> well, i'm waiting i have to say. some answers, i think, i've gotten over the last year. i think he's gotten better at upping the dynamics of -- understanding the dynamics of presidential power, how to use the bully pulpit, how to get people in sympathetic communities, box in his opponents, look at the payroll tax drama of february of this year. they handled that well, and t
as much as anything else because suddenly that 25% unemployment capital gains tax couldn't exist any longer between 19211. so the government is broke running on fumes, where can you get some revenue? the prohibition before the income tax level. as much as 40% no one wants to seem to pay taxes and legislate taxes, so that is. if somebody wants something they can purchase it or say to the federal ground and both we will get richer so it is an interesting parallel petraeus pnac there is a difference between alcohol and marijuana. one has a certain cultural tradition that transcends a generation. marijuana perhaps not the same edition. what lessons can you draw? >> kuran absolutely right. it was an integral part of some one of the center for of millennia before prohibition. there are indigenous people in this country but it was not as antonette in the life and society also it was today than 50 years ago and there's a generational issue wow were people who grew up with the presence of marijuana whether the appreciated it or not was back in the 1950's. >> what's interesting about the drug
up on your web site. all right, now, capone was eventually busted for tax evasion and became one of the earliest inmates at what famous prison? where can d. capone go on the federal tax wrap alcatraz. doocy, how could you not a know that? >> i had to miss one. >> yeah, i guess you did. alll: right, maccallum, congratulations, four for fourht but you could still blow it. >> i could. >> bernie madoff back in the news this week as the owners of the new york mets settle a lawsuit stemming from their investment in madoff's fund. >> whenwn fred wilpon was in federal court today they appeared happy. the legal settlement with the investors trustee included dropping that wilpon and catherine willfully blind. they did not know they helped madoff steal other investors money. >> bill: also there was a new sentencing madoff was sentenced to play center field for the mets this season. all right. cruel and unhuman punishment i believe. all right, now, there is also another madoff baseball connection. another one of his ripped off investors was which hall of fame pitcher? which pitcher lost mone
of boulder county, with a controversial proposal. a property tax hike. >> we asked the community for five years of support. so it's a five-year tax. it equals about $21 per year on a $300,000 home. >> ballot initiative 1-a came to a vote in november 2010. surprisingly, it passed. in its first year, 1-a raised $5 million. one of the beneficiaries, the windowmueller family. with diane still unemployed their rental assistance is extended until march 2012. but in return, hhs demands proof that the family is now living on a strict budget. >> they want an accountability for sure. and they asked us to cut back and cut back and cut as much as possible. >> lord, we thank you for this day. amen. >> so the family eliminates vacations. dinners out and afternoon-school activities for the kids. they cancelled their cable. downgrade their internet service. stopped using credit cards and start shopping for clothes in thrift stores. but they decide to keep the big suv. was the suv a symbol of better days? >> yes. yes. definitely. a symbol of security and success and solidly middle class people. >> that so
that right up on your web site. all right, now, capone was eventually busted for tax evasion and became one of the earliest inmates at what famous prison? where can d. capone go on the federal tax wrap alcatraz. doocy, how could you not a know that? >> i had to miss one. >> yeah, i guess you did. alll: right, maccallum, congratulations, four for fourht but you could still blow it. >> i could. >> bernie madoff back in the news this week as the owners of the new york mets settle a lawsuit stemming from their investment in madoff's fund. >> whenwn fred wilpon was in federal court today they appeared happy. the legal settlement with the investors trustee included dropping that wilpon and catherine willfully blind. they did not know they helped madoff steal other investors money. >> bill: also there was a new sentencing madoff was sentenced to play center field for the mets this season. all right. cruel and unhuman punishment i believe. all right, now, there is also another madoff baseball connection. another one of his ripped off investors was which hall of fame pitcher? which pitcher lost mone
and did not pay social security taxes on. president clinton turned to his second choice, a federal judge appointed by president reagan. she was pretty safe bet she hired an illegal alien but she paid the social security taxes and it was not illegal to hire an illegal alien but it was close enough that they did not want to put her out there. she had to withdraw all so even though she had not broken the law. clinton 0 of -- has ended up with janet reno and ended up to regret it when she appointed a special prosecutor. you might remember bernie, the new york city police commissioner nominated by president bush to be part of his department of all land -- homeland security. they didn't vett him carefully because later he pleaded tuilty to -- guilty to fraud. or the designation as secretary of labor that had to be withdrawn the next week because a woman gave her some money and it may or may not have been illegal. but she had misled the vetters, and they threw her under the bus. after the governor romney campaign, there may be a new set of questions. it is a difficult thing if you are nominated
. >> it would not have the taxes. we have the money left over. the park could be just as good. john: well, it certainly is true that the park is very commercial these days. but buying and selling going on. holiday gifts. very commercial. on the other hand, the public seems fine with that. >> its and look very nice. a different story. >> a lot of the things that they should be doing. you should -- john: some money. >> that's right. you will study. if everyone would feel just as good. >> is a very public. nobody has viewed it as privatized, and the final answer to these arguments, every dollar that is earned by concessions and sponsorships and events goes right back into the park. all that money i earned in these ways. the way we provide private skating complex skating for free which we do is from those booze and a sponsorship from city which has been very generous. john: less talk about your next one combustion. boston, and was once a common breezy feel. so for the tragedy. it was overgrazed. now it's a part. managed by government for about four and years. badly managed, and this is the re
will focused on the so-called fiscal cliff and the bush era tax rates. our guest will include alex from the mesh enterprise substitute and e than poll lick with the economic policy substitute. washington journal is live on c-span every day at 7:a.m. eastern. >>> on 16 or 17 bases in the united states we have military -- [inaudible] the average cost to agent dmield that school per year is $50,000. almost four times what the rest of the public education costs. and many -- the vast majority of our bases we use public schools. we can take the money we're spending today, pay every public school system $1 4,000 per child and save billions of dollars per year. and with the same or better outcomes. >>> this weekend you can take with oklahoma stater tom coburn about the fiscal cliff. on booktv in-depth. the senator is written several books including the latest "the debt bomb" join the three-hour conversation your call, e-mails, face and comments. live sunday at noon eastern on booktv in-depth on c-span2. >>> former florida governor jeb bush called for higher education standards in the u.s. deliv
%. but they probably don't know that their taxes may go up sharply toward the beginning of next year. fair to say? >> i think that's fair to say. i don't think that it's a particularly nuance perspective in terms of the facets of the fiscal cliff. everybody is generally aware that it's out there and it's hanging out there. i don't think people have an appreciation for the many elements and the way it's going to hit. some of the debate that's taken place and some of the folks that have weighed in on this, we've seen lots of investment company managers and ceos of multibillion dollar companies saying we should put revenue on the table and that's a reasonable accommodation to make. we haven't talked to small businesses. more than a million small businesses who will file ordinary income rates and take a big hit and we know they're the job creators in this economy. they need to be part of the conversation. and i think our concern and what we're going to really watch for is we can't just keep kicking the can down the road and say we'll do something next year. the issue has to be revenues can be on the table.
on the best network. exclusively at verizon. >>> top u.s. senator is moving away from an anti-tax pledge from grover norquist. facing looming tax hikes at the end of the year if they don't act, senator chambliss said, quote, i care more about my country than i do a 20-year-old pledge. if we do it his way then we'll continue in debt and i just have a disagreement with him about that. interesting. >>> want to give back this holiday season? more than 30,000 airline tickets have been given to service members and their families as part of what's called the hero miles program. launched by the fisher house foundation, it allows people to donate their frequent flyer miles to wounded, injured and sick military service members and their families. now there's a new opportunity to do the same with hotel points. joining us now from baltimore to tell us more about the hotels for heroes program are dave coker and senator ben cardin of maryland who helped to pass legislation for this. let me talk to you first, mr. co coker. first of all, great to see you again this year. tell me a little bit about this new p
, they would keep spending all of the cut taxes, putting it all on the national people when i'm upset. do you share the sense of outrage that they're doing this, this corruption based on corruption based on corruption. >>i think that's an understatement, eliot. u>> i'm not prone tot. understatement, so explain to me why that is. i think the mob learned from wall st., not vice versa. ♪ >> announcer: this is the "full court press," the "bill press show," live on your radio, and on current tv. >> john: this is the "bill press show." i'm john fugelsang filling in for bill all morning. it has been a real pleasure spending thanksgiving week with you guys. this morning we're asking a few thanksgiving questions, number one what is the real history of thanksgiving and what are you thanksful for, number two how do you handle your difficult right-wing or left-wing relatives at the dinner table, and number three is black friday good for the american economy even though we complain about it? and patricia good morning, happy thanksgiving. >> caller: good morning, john. i have enjoyed
of the year that could be major tax consequences to homeowners in america, hopefully congress will extend it which will recover if they do. in this case, you need to get somebody to look at it, talk to competent realtors. see if a short sale is something that's viable. if it is, you got nothing to lose as long as you get that waiver of deficiency. >> good news there. nancy from savannah, georgia. city bank has put us into foreclosure and now we received notice that freddie mac owns the property. what does this mean for us moving forward? we also have a second mortgage. >> freddie mac really doesn't own the property. they probably don't understand. freddie mac, fannie and freddie owns the loans. city is servicing the loan for freddie mac in this situation. so if there is a foreclosure, it won't be freddie mac that's foreclosing. it will be city that is servicing the loan for freddie that will foreclose on the property. if the foreclosure takes place, that second mortgage will go away almost -- when i say go away, unsecured debt, it's like a credit card, most states they have the right to g
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